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karlisakis
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FOC VESC for QS Motor 205 50H 3000w

Hi, as stated in the title, I am on a task of finding the best controller to be run with this motor - https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/QS-Motor-3000W-205-50H-V3_6072347...

Goal - build a bad ass drift trike in a small package, therefore the 100% duty cycle at low speeds/RPM

The controller has to take push 1500-2000W to the motor continuously 24/7, therefor looking for a really robust controller. 
I found the VESC 75/300 and a china analogue Maytech 200 controllers, but as they are more designed for high RPM longbard applications, I have no idea how they would work on a e-bike scenario with max high torque requirements at very low speeds. (10-15km/h) 

I know of the Sabvoton 72150 style controllers, but they are massive...but maybe they need to be to drive motors at high currents and low RPM'°s? 

Controller also has to have BT connectivity, hand throttle options, as well as some sort of regen brake controller externally. (maybe a brake lever with potentiometer in it)

Battery will most probably be this one, or a better a 72v equivalent.

https://em3ev.com/shop/em3ev-52v-14s5p-jumbo-shark-ebike-battery/

2000w at 52v is around 40A, but as I expect to pull that all the time, I assume a 2x larger current capacity controller must be used...?

Phaserunner V3 might work, but hard to find any info with any of these controllers being used in HARDCORE scenarios extensively.
https://ebikes.ca/product-info/grin-products/phaserunner.html

Any input is welcomed!

 

 

vadicus
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At 1500-2000w that motor will be slow as a turtle. And that battery at 40A max and 52v is also very much undersized for the motor. 

qs205v3 can take 15kw easily. I am currently running it at 10kw peak. 

For the controller, you can check out Trampa 100/250. It seems like it might work.

 

 

NextGen FOC High voltage 144v/34s, 30kw (https://vesc-project.com/node/1477)

Fpvlee
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Hi buddy,

Ill be running the 100v vesc version on my 205 6t 50h 22s setup very very soon.Check my Instagram page @fpvlee if you are interested.

karlisakis
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Hi both,

thanks for the input.

 

I am running this motor way underpowered because of longevity reasons, as it will be used in a 24/7 use case.

I bought Flipsky 75200 and Spintend 100A 75V *ubox based VESC's.

And I have a weird issue where sometimes the motor spins backwards for a split second before spinning the right direction.
Also super coggy/not smooth at anything under 2000ERPM, which is way too fast to be not-so-smooth.~

I am expecting to be able to have smooth rotation for super low RPM use cases, is this realistic and something is wrong with my motor/setup?

As it only seems to happen at a specific degree of rotation, I suspect bad hall effect sensor, yet VESC isnt complaining?

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It sounds like your sensors are not working. The momentary spin back before it spins forward occurs when a motor is running sensorless.

 

 

NextGen FOC High voltage 144v/34s, 30kw (https://vesc-project.com/node/1477)