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mansi712
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How to prevent ground loop?

I have 2 vescs connected with can bus and single power supply. Both the vescs have same firmware and i am using similar bldc motor. I tried controlling the two vescs using the vesc tool via usb, but it didnt work and i can only run one motor at a time. So after a lot of search i found that i can may be use arduino via UART port to run both the vescs. 

I tried running both the vescs individually using arduino and it works fine, but my doubt is when i connect it to the master vesc, do i have to connect only the communication wires or GND as well? 

When i tried with the single vesc i only connected Tx and RX and it worked fine, but for connecting with dual vescs I am not sure about the ground connection as i have been reading alot about ground loops and i am really have no clue what it is and how to prevent it. 

Also i am powering up the arduino using laptop via usb. 

Does anyone has any suggestion on this?

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It´s absolutely no problem to control two Vescs via CAN. On Trampaboards Website you find manuals for VESC´s in "HQ". In manuals it´s described how to wire CAN Bus. You should only connect CAN H to CAN H and CAN L to CAN L. Avoid ground loops. Using VESC´s with a power supply while using a laptop via USB can also cause problems. 

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Mansi, Best practice is the use of Isolation transforms when testing and tethering 3rd party hardware. Example MAX14882 for CAN.

Onarb, Many and plentiful instructions how to now compared to the early stages of the Vesc Project. The tool for calculations located on above site tab is a good start for parameter reference. I like the idea of solutions and that would be one of many such as your POS support from purchase.  

As an electrician you are aware of factors, Mega ohm insulation resistance, shunts, LCR meters , Battery internal resistance. Similar to asking where is space X in F in fussy quantum without referring to basic manufacture data specification. 

In doubt locate someone in the know to configure your equipment before agreeing to terms and conditions in the VESC tool for your own safety and liability.  There is also the fun of learning.

The sky is not the limit for ideas

Keep it simple.